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  How many are PIMO ??

  by Phizzy in

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  i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".

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  wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.

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  How many are PIMO ??

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".

  ?.

  wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.

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  stan livedeath

  ive often thought--there must be fair number of pimos ( when did that use of those initials start--? )---who read this site. it would be fun if they started a trend wearing something that other pimos would recognise---say--red socks ?
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  Unhappy being asked to give a Disfellowshipped Sister a ride to and from Meetings

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm pimo, very much against disfellowshipping, and going to a meeting leaves me feeling confused and angry at the best of times.

  except an elder asked me on thursday night if i can start giving a ride to a disfellowshipped woman because she lives near me and nobody else from the hall lives in my village.

  it seems the elder and his family who have been giving this woman a ride for the past six months can no longer stomach the time it takes them to go out of their way.. i thought all normal publishers weren't to have any contact with disfellowshipped people?

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  isnt it about time your car broke down--?---then none of you could get to the meetings.
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  Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

  a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

  apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

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  stan livedeath

  nowwhat?4 hours ago4 hours ago

  C'mon! every week p.e. has a new story to tell. It's a continuous soap opera of his family and old congregation that never ends.

  
  

  how can i put this...

  i know

  fuck off mate.
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  CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.

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  stan livedeath

  I think ceders owes a huge apology to Ms Dykstra.

  well he cant on here--as he isnt a member.
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  This probably sounds uppity. I'm saying it anyhow

  by stillin in

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  2. friends

  has anybody else noticed a pattern that is here among us outcasts?

  there seems to be, on average, a higher level of intelligence here than there is at the kingdom hall.

  actually, intelligent conversation seems to be looked down upon among the witnesses.. also, the simple language skills found here seem to be above average compared to those among the witnesses.

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  stan livedeath

  my recollection of life in the cult--50 years ago now: there were a few men i would describe as intelligent, good jobs or own businesses. they attended to keep their wives company. rarely answered up..never gave any ministry school talks--never got baptised'

  i wonder why ?

  on the other hand--most of those keen dubs that were the servants ( pre-elder period remember ), who gave the public talks in their best suits.......were as thick as shit. mostly handle-pullers in factories.
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  Why did you leave?

  by Fred Franztone in

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  we all have many reasons for leaving, most are doctrinal, some are emotional.

  it's a religion which obsesses over factual proofs (counterfactual though they are) of its veracity rather than faith, so it's inevitable that most who leave will do so for intellectual reasons.

  which doctrine above all others forced you to reconsider your position?

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  stan livedeath

  i left because i was fed up pretending and living a fake existence. i didnt believe in god. devil. spirits, armageddon, the resurrection. in fact---nothing that depended on having faith in something that cant be proven.

  so i couldnt carry on being a jehovahs witness--because i hadnt witnessed him / her/ it.

  this was in 1971.
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  Have you ever "partaken" at the memorial

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  it's that time of year again.. trying to decide if i should or shouldn't.

  :-).

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  stan livedeath

  just take your own sandwiches and a 6 pack.
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  Blood Card Issue

  by pometerre21 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.

  so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.

  i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.

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  stan livedeath

  pommeterre--you mention power of attorney

  i'm in the UK--and i needed power of attorney on behalf of my father---with his full agreement, understanding and consent. it involved a solicitor visiting my dad in his care home---and getting a court order. it cost a lot of money.

  so--is it something you have already entered into with your elders ?
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  Blood Card Issue

  by pometerre21 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.

  so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.

  i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.

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  stan livedeath

  so what are the elders likely to do if you decline their offer ?